Genesis is "Cockeyed"

--continued

Genesis 6:6-7
“And it repented the LORD that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart.”
“And the LORD said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have made them.

Though the BIBLE was written in a style that readers will only think of mankind’s evil ways, and the merciful God.
But being a little strong at heart you can feel “all that happens in this world, in space and time must be credited to our transcendent God
Why did Lord God feel grief in his heart?
Why did he repent about making humankind?
Didn’t he know that placing the tree of knowledge and life in a strategic position will attract human attention? And there will be nothing for God left to do!!

Genesis 6:9
“These are the generations of Noah: Noah was a just man and perfect in his generations, and Noah walked with God.”

I just can’t get this “walking” thing. Many a times in Bible I have found Men “walking” with God!!
How can one walk with God? There is a passage from the renowned book “God: The failed Hypothesis”

A Transcendent Being Cannot Be Omnipresent
1. If God exists, then he is transcendent (i.e., outside space
and time).
2. If God exists, he is omnipresent.
3. To be transcendent, a being cannot exist anywhere in space.
4. To be omnipresent, a being must exist everywhere in space.
5. Hence it is impossible for a transcendent being to be
omnipresent.
6. Therefore, it is impossible for God to exist.


Therefore, another conclusion can be taken is:

3. Walking like other verbs needs a specific time and space to be done.
4. But God is transcendent, therefore can’t be limited by space and time.
5. Hence it is impossible for transcendent God to walk.
6. Hence Genesis is a proved folly again!!


Genesis 6:15
“And this is the fashion which thou shalt make it of: The length of the ark shall be three hundred cubits, the breadth of it fifty cubits, and the height of it thirty cubits.

Genesis 6:19
“And of every living thing of all flesh, two of every sort shalt thou bring into the ark, to keep them alive with thee; they shall be male and female.”

After Men evolved into Homo sapiens, there was no other Evolution or Creation not attracting the human eye.
Therefore it can be stated any living being which we see today or know to be living, is impossible to be non-living at Noah’s time.
So as we perceive today,
Unique Animals in America: Maned Wolf, Giant Anteater, Anaconda, Jaguar,
Unique animals in Australia: Marsupials like Kangaroos and Koalas and Marsupial Mice, Dingo, Platypus, Wallaby, Koala, Echidna, Wombat, Kookaburra, Emu, Bandicoot, Numbat.
Must have been alive at the date, and as God’s command Noah must have brought them into his ark, the problem is:
If he went to America and Australia at such an early period then what need did Columbus have to discover America or the Portuguese sailors to include Australia in the World Map?
Europeans have long regarded kangaroos as strange animals. Early explorers described them as creatures that had heads like deer (without antlers), stood upright like men, and hopped like frogs.

Genesis 6:21
“And take thou unto thee of all food that is eaten, and thou shalt gather it to thee; and it shall be for food for thee, and for them.”

How did Noah care for all the animals?
Was the ark big enough?
There had to be enough room to store enough food to last Noah and his family, plus all of the animals, at least a year and maybe more depending on how long it took for vegetation to grow back. That’s a lot of food! What about drinking water?
Is it realistic to believe that Noah’s boat was big enough to store all of these animals and all of this food and water for over a year?

The ark would be 550 feet long, 91.7 feet wide and 55 feet high.
What about all of the excrement produced by all of these animals?
How did 8 people manage to feed all of those animals and deal with tons of excrement on a daily basis?
And as mentioned they had to this for 53 weeks!!
What about animals with specialized diet? That’s carnivorous animals, cannibalistic animals and Leaf-eaters?
How did plant-life survive? What about insects?


Genesis 7:20
“Fifteen cubits upward did the waters prevail; and the mountains were covered.”

This verse is a contradiction in itself!!
How come 15 cubits of rain can cover all the mountains?
The Mt. Everest is 19352.5809 cubits, and Mt. Ararat has twin peaks known as the Great Peak and the Little Peak. The height of the Great Peak is 11277.3333 cubits, and the height of the Little Peak is 8560 cubits.
Such short-sightedness is a killer!!


Genesis 7:21-22
“And all flesh died that moved upon the earth, both of fowl, and of cattle, and of beast, and of every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth, and every man:”
“All in whose nostrils was the breath of life, of all that was in the dry land, died.”

Does "All flesh" include Whales and Sharks, and other aquatic animals?
I guess upwards of 15 cubits you can definitely find Dry land!!
There are about 1 million plus aquatic species, and much flora and fauna exist on the mountains today, which possibly were unaware of the great flood!!
Did the aquatic animals take heed of the ark?, Did not they need to be killed?


Genesis 8:21
“And the LORD smelled a sweet savor; and the LORD said in his heart, I will not again curse the ground any more for man's sake; for the imagination of man's heart is evil from his youth; neither will I again smite any more every thing living, as I have done.”

The imagination of man’s heart is evil from his youth!! Who is responsible for this, Almighty God??
Why can’t you cure us again and make us forget every thing that is vicious and evil?


Genesis 9:2
“And the fear of you and the dread of you shall be upon every beast of the earth, and upon every fowl of the air, upon all that moveth upon the earth, and upon all the fishes of the sea; into your hand are they delivered.”

The Lion and Tiger and the Serpent and Bear don’t listen to me God!! They don’t have any fear of the human race…
They creep into our house and take away one from us. They are so fearless that they bare their teeth at us, and growl and snap…


Genesis 9:14-15
“And it shall come to pass, when I bring a cloud over the earth, that the bow shall be seen in the cloud:”
And I will remember my covenant, which is between me and you and every living creature of all flesh; and the waters shall no more become a flood to destroy all flesh.”

Uh Oh!!
1. If God exists then he is Omniscient.
2. If the Bible is true then God needs to remember.
3. To be omniscient, a being doesn’t forget anything.
4. But to remember something, he must forget something.
5. But it is impossible to forget for an omniscient being.
6. But if he forgets he is not omniscient.
7. Now possibly the Bible is wrong or the God isn’t omniscient.
8. Anything might happen.

Now as I proved the God or the Bible is wrong, I can’t accuse the God because he is bigger than the Bible.
And as I am discussing the Bible here, I take the Bible to be wrong!! (Whatever, No choice )


Genesis 11:1
“And the whole earth was of one language, and of one speech.

I can accuse the Bible of a thing, and every priest and Bishop has to admit to that.
i.e. The Bible is very short-sighted!!

Explore the world and then have your comments!! How can a city-mouse comment upon the country-mouse?
What will happen to the Indus Valley Civilization? (The oldest and the most influencing civilization)
Where will the Yangtze Kiang Civilization go? (The most technically advanced civilization)
Tamil, Sanskrit, Telugu, Mandarin, who will speak these languages if everyone speaks Hebrew?
I am very pissed off at this verse.


Genesis 11:9
“Therefore is the name of it called Babel; because the LORD did there confound the language of all the earth: and from thence did the LORD scatter them abroad upon the face of all the earth.”

*#@$%!&# ****** To whosoever wrote this verse in Bible.
All the European languages are the gift of the Sanskrit and Tamil, and the South Eastern languages are from Pali and Telugu.
Mother, Father, Brother, Navigation, Trigonometry, etc. there is a long list of words
Click http://wordorigins.in find it for yourselves!!
Sanskrit hath more spread than Hebrew!! How many people in the world speak Hebrew now? Only Israel!

Genesis is "Cockeyed"

So... According to James' idea "Let's take one topic at a time" I begin with the Genesis Chap-1. Lets start from Genesis Chap 1...

According to Bible...
In the beginning there was nothing....


Genesis 1:1
"In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth."

Where from the other 7 planets come?
Where is the heaven?
Does the heaven include all the planets?


Genesis 1:26
"And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth."

What is about that "us" and "our" thing? Numerous Gods?
Was God a pure chauvinist? Why did he create male first?
If he created Man in his own Image, Is God a male entity?


Genesis 2:9
"And out of the ground made the LORD God to grow every tree that is pleasant to the sight, and good for food; the tree of life also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of knowledge of good and evil."

Why did God made "the tree of knowledge and life" grow?
He made it grow, okay, But why at such a strategic position "midst of the garden"?
To attract negative attention, or to play with the curiosity of Men?


Genesis 2:17
"But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die."

What a great lie in the Second Chapter of Bible!!
We recall Adam did not die. So God uses falsity to imbibe fear??


Genesis 2:21
"And the LORD God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he slept: and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof;"

Did he really take? Why did he take?
If he took, why didn't men lose a rib bone hence?
Why ever he needed a rib bone? Couldn't he create Eve out of air?


Genesis 1:27
"So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them. "

Genesis 2:7
"And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul."

Genesis 2:22
"And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man."

Oops, there goes it... What a catch!!
He made Adam and Eve in Genesis 1 and again in Genesis 2, My ---!
How many times would he need to make a simple easy thing!
If he created a Woman because Man was lonely or needed to procreate, why didn't he think earlier about a Woman? and kept Adam waiting...


Genesis 2:24
"Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh."

Genesis 3:16
Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.

WTF? ). I wont leave my parents in any condition!!
Talking of Hindu Scriptures though full of myths, are far better in this subject from Bible.
What will happen to the parents when they are old? Who will look after them?

Why a man's wife? Why can't a woman be independent of man?
Why Did God create the present difficulties in a woman's life?
Don't you think the social problems are due to such "cockeyed" Books?


Genesis 3:1
"Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?"

So Did the omniscient not repent for his creation of the serpent?
Is not he sole responsible for the propagation of Satan into Human ear?
So... In Genesis days Cattle mooed, Birds chirped, but Snakes could speak!


Genesis 3:9
"And the LORD God called unto Adam, and said unto him, Where art thou?"

Our omnipresent God called out to someone to know where was he...
Who is Adam? Who named him Adam? The author?


Genesis 3:14
"And the LORD God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life:"

So how did the serpent moved before the curse? Could it walk!!
No no no no... Your curse is expired God!!
The Serpent now eats live men and cattle, no more dust!!


Genesis 3:17
"And unto Adam he said, Because thou hast hearkened unto the voice of thy wife, and hast eaten of the tree, of which I commanded thee, saying, Thou shalt not eat of it: cursed is the ground for thy sake; in sorrow shalt thou eat of it all the days of thy life;"

Is it another crime to give ear to wife's words?


Genesis 3:22
"And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:"

God became so fearful of his own creation, he drove them out of Eden>>
Now if we discover immortality somehow, there will be no attributes of God special.


Genesis 4:4
"And Abel, he also brought of the firstlings of his flock and of the fat thereof. And the LORD had respect unto Abel and to his offering:"

To all the worshipers of God.. God loves fat offerings. He is very partial towards juicier, tempting, pieces of steak. He did not care how much Cain had to work to bring forth a fruit of the ground.


Genesis 4:16-18
"And Cain went out from the presence of the LORD, and dwelt in the land of Nod, on the east of Eden."
And so my dear friends, don't fear! God is limited, you are far away from his presence if not in Israel!!
"And Cain knew his wife; and she conceived, and bare Enoch: and he builded a city, and called the name of the city, after the name of his son, Enoch."

"And unto Enoch was born Irad: and Irad begat Mehujael: and Mehujael begat Methusael: and Methusael begat Lamech."

Wow!! Whoa Whoa Whoa! So there was an another land!
Where from they come? Were they aliens...
(If not, the people were other "Adam"s of God.. )

Who is that Girl? Who did Cain have sex with?
Not EVE as he was banished far away from EVE!
Then Who??
So many sons, grandsons, grand grandsons? Where from the wives come? "Land of Nod"?


So the answer is INCEST? Is it so? My --- That's a sin!
The Last Questions disturb me a lot, a lot. Please if there is someone who could help me in this plight, please help me... always open to answers...
I will be going to sleep now!! Might I get answers in my dream...
More to come...

Encounter with James Day11

Donnie.: 25 Apr

What does he want War or Peace?

EXO 15:3 The LORD is a man of war: the LORD is his name.

ROM 15:33 Now the God of peace be with you all. Amen.

Donnie.: 26 Apr

What happened dude??
I am sorry if u are busy... but still it has been 4 days since your last scrap..


It has been 11 days since his last scrap on 22 Apr. James is busy on a new album recording, and probably he has also lost interest.

Encounter with James Day7

James: 22 Apr

Ok DHONI ...Here we go...today before starting work i wanna answer your questions.

I am sticking to your question of ADAM and EVE and the family growing within the family.

To understand my answer you have to first know the things that happened as mentioned in the bible.
If you read genesis and the story completly you shud know that God first created man and made them in male and females this is in the chapter 1:27
"27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them"
and then in the second chapter he makes ADAM lets read it, it says
"7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul"
I hope you already have seen the diffrence he made the first man with a living soul later, this verse specifically says "and MAN BECAME A LIVING SOUL"
and then you know later on he made EVE and all other things. So the conclusions is that ADAM and EVE were the first HUMANS

James:

Now when these beings became soul ful beings they were now capable to have a free will and freedom to choose.
When it comes to excersise free will one needs to have something to choose from...If there was only Good to choose from how would good be good ! So god made a simple rule for them to follow. He told them to do everything that they wanted to do in the Garden except to eat the fruit from the tree that is in the center of the garden he specifically said that if you eat it you shall die.Lets read it Genesis 2:17
17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.
and you know the story again how the Devil (Who is devil and where did he come from is another topic,i will talk about it later) first tempted EVE and both ADAM and EVE commited the sin of Disobedience.

James:

If you remember the earlier verse God had said they would die if they eat the fruit, so they did eat the fruit and now it was Gods word to be fulfilled, he must kill, destroy ADAM and EVE for their disobedience. But he dindt kill them but instead made a plan for these humans who fell in to sin which will save them and also keep him righteous in his descision. God being a righteous being, cannot break his own word. if he does that then he is not a righteous person. in this scenario he has to prove his righteousness by doing what he said. So this is what God planned, If he has to leave ADAM and EVE for thier punishment of death, Some one else has to take that sin on him / her and take that punishment of death !
So on that day he left the cursed humans and the cursed creation on their own, till Jesus 2000 years came and lived his life as a righteous person and died as a sinless person to pay the price that our ancestors ADAM and EVE committed.

James:

Now from the time that started from ADAM and EVE till you and me were born the HUMAN RACE has grown Mentally, Emotionally, Spiritually. The Earlier human nature was not the same as today is, we have learnt from our ancestors from the past what to do and what not to do.we were brutal and ruthless and very less sophisticated beings mentally and emotionally as we today are. So if you look at Gods nature in the past as written in the books he is also very brutal and strict in his guide lines that he gives to the people of that time, in the process of teaching that generation. A father beats his child ruthlessy in his adolecence when he commits wrong to teach him, that beating can also be mocked as brutle and heartless but only the father knows what will teach his son or daughter to learn what is good and what is Bad.If you read Leviticus and numbers and Exodus you will get most of the material to MOCK God and ask questions on what he asked and did in those times.

James:

Coming back to the original question....
So in those very first days of human race with ADAM and EVE and CAIN and ABLE, yes they must have mingled with each other to get their offsprings, today after almost 6000 years we know the relations and the depth of relations between our offsprings, like we have father mother and Sister and brother,and the rules about physical behaviour, these words and relations were not even coined in those days.They were the PILOT batch of the humans that we have become today. Thats what God has been doing since generations till today, teaching the malfunctioned creation how to live and love each other and follow GOD. A bible reader or a christian knows what Gods plan was and is, which had a start and which also has a end.

I hope this give your answer to your first question of adam and eve and they sleeping with their parents and siblings.

Donnie.:

James James James.... Wait...
You got my question wrong, dude...
I asked you about breaking God's rule... ("Which is transcedent ("Out of Space and Time")") I dint ask you anything about the morality of the "PILOT batch".

I ask you what about the breaking of God's Law... That he gave to Moses... Why do you want to trap God in Space and time... God is transcendent, and his laws alike.?
God will never like you commit a sin, which is due to his discoveries...

Donnie.:

And, at least in some cases, is punishable by death.

And the man that lieth with his father's wife hath uncovered his father's nakedness: both of them shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them. Leviticus 20:11

And if a man lie with his daughter in law, both of them shall surely be put to death: they have wrought confusion; their blood shall be upon them. Leviticus 20:12

And if a man take a wife and her mother, it is wickedness: they shall be burnt with fire, both he and they; that there be no wickedness among you. -- Leviticus 20:14

God commanded...) None of you shall approach anyone who is near of kin to him, to uncover his (or her) nakedness: I am the Lord. (Lev 18.6)

Go figure.


Encounter with James Day5

Donnie.: 18 Apr

pk then.. Let's start from Genesis Chap 1...

Acc to Bible...
In the beginning there was nothing....
God created Animal, Water, air, e.t.c and Adam on six days, and last day Eve...
He made Eve one day later out of a rib of Adam.
And named her woman, "man's wife".
Adam and Eve had sons Cain and Abel.

Donnie.:

Now I say...
If there was nothing And god made only one planet where from the eight other planets come from??

If you say one day in genesis period can be equal to billion years, I have to say Adam had to wait for Eve for a billion years!!
If God made Eve out of Adam's ribs, then why is a Man's rib bone number equal to an Woman's rib bone number??

Was God a pure chauvinist??
Why did he create male first? If he created Man in his own Image, Is God a male entity?
If he created a Woman because Man was lonely or needed to procreate, why didn't he think earlier about a Woman? and kept Adam waiting for a billion years...

Why a man's wife? Why can't a woman be independent of man? Did God create the present difficulties of a woman's life in those days not thinking of the future?

Donnie.:

The only family in the world to procreate was Adam's family, with their two sons...
Why did God made Adam's family commit a sin of incest??
the worst sin for a human being..
Did Cain and Abel had sex with their mother (the only woman) to take on this world...
Did they have sex with their children also??
And Did their children had sex among them??

Watch the Bible divert your attention towards Cain's life towards Egypt, how did the people in Egypt come, were they aliens...( if not the people were other Adam's of God..

I know these questions are hard-hitting, but answer them and you will get my ideas..

Donnie.: 19 Apr

I was waiting for ur answers...

Donnie.: 20 Apr

I am still waiting!!

James: 20 Apr

Dear donnie,
I dont not have time on weekends and cannot answer you on those days, please take a note of it.
I wish i could say to you to read the bible once before asking these questions but i know you wud think you alreyd have read or i dont wanna anser your questions.
And also these questions are Ages old and not new, if you google it you will find answers for yourself.
But i am not asking you to do that, please give me some time, i work in the day and in the evening i have my home and some other priorities.
So chill back and wait for my answers.
Dont draw conclusion and feel happy about it !!!

Proverbs 11:2
2 When pride comes, then comes disgrace,
but with humility comes wisdom.

Donnie.:

The questions may be famous... Things to watch out for is...

How God defends himself...

To my best knowledge... nothing was out of context...

For your sake I dropped the delicious topic of the ("cockeyed") The Great Flood...
And started from the beginning of the Bible... From ("Rather incestuous") Genesis...

I am nobody to give chance to an Idea or something... Fittest Theories can survive the most cold attitude of men...

And coming to your 40 authors, 66 versions, 3 continents, multi-language-culture, One Bible. That is why I find Bible as Plagiarized, and full of Contradictions in itself.

Donnie.:

Though Stick to my Original question regarding "Incestor Ancestors" I will be waiting Patiently now.


I get diverted to a topic very easily, And was diverting again, but I stopped, And kept patiently waiting for the answer regarding "Incestor Ancestors"


Encounter with James Day2

I was very excited to read his answers... And needed someone like him to answer something I ponder the whole day on...
Thus I scrapped him...

Donnie.: 17 Apr

recently in a forum named Big Bang theory I found your contributions to make God omnipresent...

I have some questions for you to answer... Plzz if you dont mind Can I continue??


But I was to restless to wait for a day for which was not even 0.01 % of my actual Question.

Donnie.: 17 Apr

Since the the fellow beings have precisely and accurately measured the age of earth (though may not be accurate for some "followers") which is circa 4.5 billion BC,
(I think the oldest fossilized organism is at least 2.3 and 3.5 billion years before the present)

in comparison to this, biblical error of creation is 5975 BC, we can see that its completely non-sense and less then 2 millionth of the real age of our earth!!

James:

Hello Donnie...
nice to know your interest in the bible and the origins of life.

You said "Since the the fellow beings have precisely and accurately measured the age of earth" and then the age calculated says CIRCA 4.5 billion BC.
Hope you know what CIRCA (Approximately) means and BC stands for (Before Christ), if you reference a person from the bible to tell me the age of earth and then say the biblical age of the earth is wrong then it sounds a lil more nonsense than the Biblical calculation of earth according to you.
And more over many of the So called Atheists have this question and before even checking what they are claiming to be wrong they call it nonsense.
The Bible doesnt say anything about the age of the earth, the 6000 year caluclation is the calulation of the timeline from adam till christ.
Infact if you read genesis it says God took a lot of time in creating things, 7 days it says, not the 24 hour day cause God created this time that we are living in so his work cannot be measured with the same

James: 17 Apr

Thermodynamics says Mass and energy do not have any control on themselves, if left on their own in a motion there are only 2 possibilities, either it satys as it was in the bigining and keeps spining or takes very random and messy form. Nothing even close to what a atom does or a body cell does..
I feel till DNA was discovered Evolution had a tiny chance to be true, but its surprising that even after knowing that we are a 4 digit code machines we still want to belive this humongusly complicated code which is unique to every creature without any link to each other was formed but millions and trillions of spining of MASS & ENERGY ....You decide which one sounds more nonsense.

James:

so those 7 days can be billion or trillion years if converted to the time that you an i live in but also can be actually shorter than what we presume, you see its a totally diffrrent dimension conversion ratio.
So the conlusion is that the biblical calclulation of 6000 years is the calculation of time from ADAM till today and not the age of the earth !!
The radiometric calculation of Earth is correct and precise in the Same time dimension as we are now living in and i dont argue about that.
Please get your basics right before claiming something to be non sense especially when you think millions and trillions of years of Just the spining of mass and energy gets you a complex life form like humans and earth is not non sense.

Donnie.:

The greatest error in Bible which I have found out myself and all credits goes to me!!

i.e. God only saved 4 couples (eight persons) On board ala carte Noah's Ark...
But other animals only a couple!!! What partiality he bestowed upon the animal race...

By the way it was God's wish!! Baddi logo ki Baddi baatein!!
Thing to ponder is... How could men and women equal in ratio be accountable ("able" in smooth terms!!) for such a surge in human population..

In clearer words... Adam was created in 5975 BC... 'Great flood' 2256 years after Adam i.e. 3719 BC.
To raise a successful generation free from diseases and err-mutations the success ratio needs to be 20:80, 20 males and 80 females, not god proposed 1:1 duel!!

Present Evolutionist claim that for life to bond in leaps the ratio of males:females at least 20:80 or they will all die!! else cripple in handicap and go extinct.
It is impossible for the Great flood to happen...

More reasons to come... Have good Night's sleep...

Donnie.:

I respect your answers and your belief upon thy god... but...

Donnie.:

I asked you a question and I don't think that i got the answer of my respective question...

I told you the oldest fossilized organism is at least 2.3 and 3.5 billion years before the present... my question was not completely about earth...
but the oldest organism... which is two million times older than mentioned in bible...

And my another thing to claim was the futility of the theory of the Great flood and falsity of the same...

James:

First thing dude, stop mocking things by using words like non and falsity.
If you intention is to get answers then ask questions and not just show your smartness or your intelligence to prove things without knowing the issue it self.
For your information if you read what i wrote it said God made things in the slot of 7 days of his time. and i guess if you atleast make and attempt to read oce on what you are mocking. please Google for |Genesis chapter 1 and read it, it says God created all the creature in those 8 days now if you looking for the word dianoausors in the bible then you wont find it.
And bout the flood, its a almost proven fact not just thru bible but by many scientist also that a catostrophic event of flood did happen in the past many other cultures also have the mention of the global flood.
I will get back to in detai on the flood later.\Lets take one topic at a time.


I realized we were not heading a same answer... but we were answering different answers from different questions irrespective of each other!

So... According to his idea "Let's take one topic at a time" I began with the Genesis Chap-1
And became more patient on waiting, as I wanted a definite answer now... no more Chaos.


Encounter with James Day1


<<James


I found an honest and straight forward man who could answer all the anti-theist questions, that people ask, with complete sense of the both worlds of spirituality and Science...

I came across a community in Orkut A Brief History of Time
And found James' defense for God... As follows... in THE BIG BANG...

11/11/2006

ZaRaThUsTrA

just one question.........

so what was god doin before he created the universe...according to you if he is etrenal?

13/11/2006

James

i was away..sorry for the delay

before and after....these terms itself are related with time...if the thing called time didnt exist then so do before and after also dont exist....The creator of the time cannot be bounded in time itself...to understand eternity you need to understand that eternity cannot be measured with time

God exists outside of time. Cause he created time and he cannot fall in that same dimension which he himself created.
Since we live in a universe of cause and effect, we naturally assume that this is the only way in which any kind of existence can function. However, the premise is false. Without the dimension of time, there is no cause and effect, and all things that could exist in such a realm would have no need of being caused, but would have existed from eternity. Therefore, God created the time dimension of our universe specifically for a reason - so that cause and effect would exist for us.
Second thing
God exists in more than one dimension of time. Things that exist in one dimension of time are restricted to time's arrow and are confined to cause and effect. However, two dimension of time form a plane of time, which has no beginning and no single direction. A being that exists in at least two dimension of time can travel anywhere in time and never had a beginning, since a plane of time has no starting point. Either interpretation leads one to the conclusion that God has no need of having been created.

I hope this answers buddy...if you are not sure about any terms or any ideas above please feel free to reply...
I would be more than Glad

James

@Sanjana

Who or what is God...
Let me Explain
This planet and all the things that man has discovered so far can be scientifically classified only under 2 things. MASS and ENERGY...
What ever you see and feel around is Mass and the moving capability is because of enerygy.

Science proves that mass and Energy does not have controll on themsleves and if they were left all alone on their own they will take the most wildest and confused and random form around itself and would end up in a messed up state.(whicc contradicts with big bang, big bang says all this happened on by Mass and energy itself) But on the contrary when we look aroud and research the behaviour of Mass and Energy around us we conclude that they are not in a mess but rather following some rules, patterns and peculiar behaviour.I have a whole documentation of the complexity and accuracy of our natural laws and how preciesly they are harmonised (Again harmonizing needs intelligence and cannot happen by fluke or just evolve).

Now there has to be something more than mass and energy that can control on this mass and energy or that can shape or mold or design this Mass and Energy as we see it around us today.

That third power canonnt itself be mass and energy cause we just saw what it does onits own..
That third power that governs the universe is called as GOD or Creator.

Please let me know if you have any questions.

God bless

04/08/2008

James

Yeah he contorls, not in a way like controlling puppets and running a show, but like controlling a son with a fathers authority. Not telling his SON what he shud do but telling him what wrong he is doing and correcting him.

We are free will beings that he made and not robots, if you choose not to belive in him it is your choice and he is not going to force you and convert your mind to belive in him.
He is a pure gentleman and gives everyone his chance to either choose him or not to choose him, thats why its said we all choose what we get, and we all will get what we choose in this life that we temporarily live in.
God is perfect and he made this world a perfect place for his creation "The free will beings" to choose him or not choose him.

Let me tell you what the histroy has noted in the books about the real god and the explnation that perfectly sings along the things you see around.

We were made perfect but it was us who choosed the bad and broke Gods command.
And thats why God had to put the human race in this situation to learn and understand his will.


But thats not all for me I need to know much much more "What believer's believe".